make, they made them with a foot mold of michelle obama's foot. this is something, what an incredible nod to this american designer who also happens to be the president of the iconic american brand coach. but let's talk about this moment for thom browne for a moment. for him, this is a man who is known for sort of redefining men's wear, the sort of shrunken suits, those ankle length pants. not as well known for his women's wear. what do you think this will do to him? >> i think just like jason woo who was relatively unknown during the first inauguration, that really put him on the map. i think what michelle obama's so great at is really embracing homegrown talent and really working with emerging desirgner. not that thom browne is emerging because in the fashion business we've known about him for a long time. from allentown, pennsylvania, just like me. i believe doing women's fashion for two years. >> he told me today he hopes that after this moment more people around the world will look at him and his women's fashion with a different eye, and i do